Neil Gaiman Exclusive: 'Coraline' and More

By Jenni Miller


Neil Gaiman
Photo by Serena Davidson

In 1989, Neil Gaiman created a little comic book called The Sandman, and, along with esteemed colleagues like Watchmen's Alan Moore, slowly and inadvertently created a pop culture phenomenon that still has fans snapping up his graphic novels almost twenty years later. Since then, Gaiman has put his pen to work in an astounding number of media, from more graphic novels, to children's books, fiction, TV, and film. (For a complete list of his work, visit his official website.). Though Neil is currently on tour promoting his new book The Graveyard Book, which he is doing by reading a chapter per location and posting the footage in its entirety on his website here, he squeezed some time into his schedule to talk to Premiere.com about the big-screen adaptation of his novel Coraline. The film, which comes out in February 2009, is a stop-motion, stereoscopic three-dimensional extravaganza adapted and directed by The Nightmare Before Christmas' Henry Selick.

When mischievous Coraline (voiced by Dakota Fanning) goes exploring in her new house and finds a door to another, cooler world that's full of magical toys, yummy food, and doting parents, it seems too good to be true. Of course, it is — her real parents (Teri Hatcher and John Hodgman) have disappeared, and her other parents want her to stay forever in their world that's getting creepier by the minute. In a particularly Gaiman-esque twist, Coraline's other parents also have buttons for eyes — and she has sew buttons on hers too, if she wants to stay. But she doesn't seem to have much choice in the matter. Using her wits and help from a black cat and the ghosts of past children who stayed in this other world, Coraline has to find a way to outsmart Other Mother, rescue her real parents, and keep her peepers.

Is it true that it took you ten years to write Coraline?
Yes, it's true, but that is a misleading truth, in that, it absolutely took me ten years to write Coraline, but I wasn't spending that entire ten years writing Coraline. The idea with Coraline is that it was a book I was writing in my own time; in my free time I was Coraline-ing. And I moved to America, and somewhere in there, I just ran out of free time so I was probably... about a third of the way into the book and then I just put it aside until I found the time to work on it, and really, nothing then happened until some years later I picked it up again and sent it to my publisher, to my editor, and she read it and she said, "This is wonderful. What happens next?" and I said, "Send me a contract and we will both find out."

I read that you sent Henry Selick the manuscript eighteen months before it was published.
That's true. I mean, Henry didn't even get the final final draft. But the moment I finished it, I gave it to my agent, the redoubtable Jon Levin at CAA, and I said... "Well, I want it with Henry Selick and I quite like it with Tim Burton, 'cause I love The Nightmare Before Christmas, and they were the two people who did that, and I think, if it's gonna be a film, it should be something like that." And I don't know if it ever made it through the ranks to actually land on Tim Burton's desk and get read, [but] it was really a moot point, because by the end of the week, Henry had read it, said that he wanted to do it, and had put the mechanisms in place. You know, the contract negotiations had already started.

A scene from Coraline Photo by Galvin Collins

And did he check in with you or talk to you about some of the changes he made or added to the adaptation?
Absolutely. He wrote a first draft that was incredibly faithful, and I think I actually wound up saying to him, "Look, I think it's a bit too faithful," because it didn't feel like a movie, it felt like you were just reading the book. And I sort of encouraged him to expand it into a film a bit more. And the next one he rather nervously added a character and added events, but now the script read like a movie script. And then it was just a matter of him having another six years to find a studio that would give him the money to make the ultimate stop-motion movie.

How much input did you have when it came to the design of the characters or the set?
Absolutely none, which I was perfectly happy with, honestly. It's Henry's movie... It wasn't that I was without input — I had input into things like some casting suggestions — Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders as Miss Spink and Miss Forcible was absolutely my suggestion, and Henry, bless him, just sort of went and acted on it. But Henry being Henry would let me know what he was doing at all stages, and he'd send me photographs and he'd send me models, and I went out to the studio a couple of times.

I think the strength of stop motion is also the frustration of stop motion, and the amazing strength of stop motion from a directorial point of view is nobody gets to watch dailies and then say, "No, maybe can we shoot that again tomorrow and have her do it in red?" Because... it's two or three seconds of footage on a good day. And so it's an astoundingly slow and painstaking process, which is just Henry off in Portland with admittedly, as far as I can tell, the single largest and most ambitious stop-motion set the world have ever seen and three hundred animators and model makers and such filming this thing in 3D.

Neil Gaiman and Henry Selick at the LAIKA Entertainment production offices during the shooting of Coraline
Photo by Galvin Collins

But it also means that, even for me, I'd go about my life and then I'd sit up one day and think, "You know I haven't seen anything for three or four months now, and I'd phone Henry and I'd say, "Have you got anything for me to see?" And he'd say, "Yeah, I'll get you off a DVD." And I'd get a DVD with another ten minutes of footage on it! [laughs] What's actually been fun is, because they're pretty much shooting it exactly in order, the DVDs have been getting scarier and scarier. They started off [and I thought], "Well this is rather sweet and rather friendly," and the last one that I got I could actually say, "No, this is scary, this is really scary."

How about the musical production of Coraline by Stephen Merritt? How involved are you in that?
Not at all, other than being possibly the world's biggest Stephin Merritt fan. I think that I'm such an enormous, ridiculous fan of all of Stephin's work in all of the various incarnations that when the possibility of Stephin getting to do a musical and getting to do it his way came over the transom, I basically just said, "Yes, go do it." I've heard I think about 18 songs so far, many of them very short, and I think that he's done probably twice that many again, and I'm sure that some songs have gone and some have stayed. And the last couple of times he's done readings and such I wanted to get to New York [but] I've been on tour in China and, you know, somewhere equally unlikely, so... I'm probably going to keep my distance until dress rehearsals and things and get to go and see it then. But I love the fact that these things can exist in different media. The main thing that I did, the biggest thing that I did was basically extend Stephin's option on the musical so that it wouldn't, 'cause otherwise you would have actually had to have the musical and the film coming out in the same month, and I just thought that would just confuse everybody... Technically, he was meant to have staged it by February and I just said, "No, move it away from the film so that nobody gets confused."

Can you talk more about the news about Dr. Strange and Guillermo del Toro?
Well, I don't know that it's really news! The wonderful thing about the Internet is that things get mentioned in interviews or whatever and then they come out and suddenly something is news. I mean, this morning my inbox filled up with people letting me know that it's news that Roger Avary and I are no longer writing Black Hole, and I'm going, "But that was news in December of last year!" [laughs] We pretty much knew that going into the writer's strike, and we definitely knew once David Fincher came onboard after the writer's strike. It's astonishingly old news, it's just hit the thing today.

Animator Chris Tootell readies Coraline to cross a snowy forest Photo by Galvin Collins

I would love to write Dr. Strange. It would be absolutely one of my dream jobs [to write] a Dr. Strange movie. Last year I was out in Budapest for three weeks on the set of Hellboy II with Guillermo, and I mentioned to him that I've been, in very very early sort of "I would to do this" talks with Marvel about doing a Dr. Strange movie, and Guillermo's reaction was, "Neil, I want to direct it!" [doing Guillermo del Toro imitation] being wonderfully Guillermo and getting all excited and having all sorts of magical and wonderful ideas about this, and Marvel, I think, were very excited too. But the fact of the matter is, you know, Guillermo has two Hobbit movies now, and then he's probably gonna do another personal movie, I would imagine, after that. Probably Hellboy 3 'cause he'd wanna do it before everybody gets too old to look like the Hellboy characters [laughs]. Although, actually I think he may have thought that one through in different ways. Anyway, the point is we're probably, we may be four years away from Guillermo being free to do it, and I'm not entirely sure I'd want to do it without him. So we'll see.

What's the latest on Death: The High Cost of Living?
Well, I think the latest is that we're all waiting to see what happens to New Line. Death is a very odd thing because, unlike Coraline or Anansi Boys, which I'm doing for Warners, or The Graveyard Book or any of those kinds of things, I don't own and control the rights to Death. I'm attached to it, I've written a script for it, I'm meant to be directing it... but I don't control it, and for reasons having to do with corporate relationships between DC Comics and Warner Brothers, it has to be done by a Warner Brothers company, and then you have to find a Warner Brothers studio within Warner Brothers that will be a good fit for that film, and of course New Line was a really good fit for that film, and it remains to be seen right now what New Line is when the dust is settled and whether there is a New Line or not.

Assistant Cameraman Mike Gerzevitz between takes with Wybie and Coraline
Photo by Galvin Collins

You're in the middle of The Graveyard Book tour and I'm wondering what has inspired you to connect so much with your fans in person and online with your blog and email, when you have the success and the projects and everything where you could just hole up and write and do whatever you want.
But I like it! I mean, it's fun. It's weird, I had this conversation with somebody this morning, an interviewer... who was asking me the similar question but upside down 'cause he was asking why I hadn't gone for sort of literary respectability and why I, like you were saying the acclaim and all of that kind of stuff and the awards, if I just stopped messing around in movies and doing comics I could be ... I could be taken really seriously like Salman Rushdie or whatever, and I'm thinking, "Why?".... And the truth is I'm saying "Look, Salman Rushdie is a friend of mine, and I got an email from him [saying] how much he and his son liked the Stardust movie." I like high culture and low culture, I like keeping in touch with the world. I think it's all about communication, and I think it's all about the work as well, and getting to do something goofy and magic like go on a reading tour that wasn't actually a signing tour and then read a chapter of a book at a different location every night and have it up on the web by the next morning, that's so cool! Nobody's done that before! And I got to be the first person ever to do that, and it was great! And I got to prove all of the things that I'd been saying about giving stuff away, which made me incredibly happy because I had this theory that you could stuff away and it would work. And you can watch the entirety of The Graveyard Book up on my website, and we still went in at number one on the New York Times children's list, and we've been there ever since. So it makes me happy.

And your fans as well.
My fans are so cool. And they know everything! I mean, you know, which is terribly useful if you've got a blog and you suddenly want to know something, you can put up a question and say, "Does anybody know...?"

And there are tons of pictures of people dressed up like your characters and have tattoos of them and such.
Which is one reason I think why I like the idea that we still haven't had a Sandman movie. I love the idea that it's still for people who've got their Sandman tattoos and their Death tattoos and stuff... It's something that they know and cool people like them know, and it's not something that the entire world knows.

I read a quote of yours where you jokingly compared The Sandman to a sexually transmitted disease because guys would pass it on to their girlfriends trying to get them to read comics. And now comic books are graphic novels and they're so incredibly popular and mainstream that it's really fun, but it's also a little less...
Well, I feel that's true. But I've gotta say, I found it frustrating in the days when comic store owners would come up to me, clasp my hand as if meeting the messiah and say, "You brought women into my store," and that I would have people at signings saying, "Oh my God, my girlfriend reads comics because of you," and stuff. I like the fact that we're now in a universe in which it's taken completely for granted that women are reading are comics — that manga, that graphic novels, human beings read them. It's no longer a gender-based entertainment. And from my perspective, there's a weirdness in that, you know, Sandman is twenty years old. This is its twentieth anniversary year... It's twenty years old, and when I started doing it, the last thing that I imagined was a universe where 20 years later we'd be selling more copies of Sandman with each succeeding year than we had in the one before!

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Matt Lauer's Roast: Tom Cruise, Katie Couric, and 3 Hours of Dick Jokes

Posted by Tony Ortega

Just got back from the Hilton in midtown after three hours of dick and pussy jokes from some of the biggest stars of TV and film. Over plates of rubbery chicken, with Howard Stern in the audience, with Aretha Franklin doing the most amazing rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner ever (and while playing the piano herself), and with Abe Vigoda sitting on the dais and managing to stay somewhat alive, the afternoon's Friar's Roast did not disappoint.

Cameras and recording devices were not allowed, but we managed to write down the dirtiest jokes on a notepad under the table. Without further ado:

Lauer's Today buddy Al Roker was "roastmaster" (ask your parents), but before he could even get warmed up, Tom Cruise made his "surprise" entrance (which was such a surprise, it had been broken on the Internet hours earlier).

Cruise was brilliant casting, because the rollercoaster he's been on the past few years over his space-alien-worshipping religion started over two big events -- the way he jumped all over Oprah's couch expressing his love for new babe Katie Holmes, and for a confrontational interview he did in 2005 with journalistic cupcake Lauer. The Lauer interview in particular made Cruise not only appear unhinged, but it also made him look like a bully for the way he criticized Brooke Shields for turning to medication to deal with post-partum depression. (Those wacky Scientologists believe the best way to treat all maladies, particularly those of the mind, is with maximum adoration of 30's pulp fiction author, L. Ron Hubbard.)

But today, Cruise was not only a good sport for showing up to roast Lauer, he really killed. Guy was hilarious and self-deprecating. He joked about how he and Lauer were actually best buddies and went everywhere together, how they pranked Willard Scott, and how they talked on the phone four times a day (and he had slides to go with it).

"Matt has also given me some great advice," Cruise said. Things in 2005 were going great, Cruise went on. He'd just made a movie with Spielberg, and he was going to go on Oprah's show. Matt, he said, asked him what he was going to talk about. When he said he was going to talk about the movie, Matt made an "angry sigh," Tom said.

"Tom, don't be glib," Cruise said, imitating Laeur, "You're in love. Go crazy. Trust me, people will love you for it."

Tom then explained that Lauer also gave advice to Jeff Zucker (the NBC Universal CEO who was also sitting on the dais) to dump Leno, and Lauer also ran into OJ Simpson on the golf course and gave him advice as well. "Juice. Look, if those guys got your shit in Vegas... don't be a pussy, just go up to that hotel now and take it. Trust me, Juice, people will love you for it," Cruise said as Lauer, and got big laughs.

Cruise then said that his life is "going from international movie sets to amazing parties. And then from amazing parties to international movie sets. But Matt, you found happiness doing the same thing every day."

The diminutive movie idol then turned to leave, and Lauer jumped to the microphone: "Can you stay? We can get you a booster seat."

Al Roker couldn't help adding his own Cruise jab: "Tom can't stay because the space ship has to leave soon."

Cue the knowing oohs and laughter from the audience. Tom, you were lovable but we all know you belong to the wackiest of sci-fi religions.

Roker then threw out an observation that got another groan, pointing out two of the celebrities on the football-field-long dais. "Who looks more like a man, Clay Aiken or Dara Torres?"

Ouch!

"There are three things Matt and Sarah Palin have in common," Roker continued. "They each spent $150,000 on clothes in a single season. They were both screwed over by Katie Couric. And both wear women's jeans."

Roker then introduced Martha Stewart, who looked pretty out of place at a Friar's Roast. The closest she could get to raunch was saying that "I hear NBC executives call Matt the 'Cock of the Rock.'"

If she was tepid, Meredith Viera more than made up for it. Lauer's Today costar started right in with, "That motherfucker Matt Lauer," and got a big laugh.

"I am amazed that I have time for this stupidity," she said, pointing out that she does the Today show, Who Wants to be a Millionaire?, has three kids and a husband, and that's a lot of balls to juggle.

"Look at Katie Couric. She juggled Matt's balls for six years. That's three years per ball."

(At this point, the spectacle of a TV personality doing this kind of material had the room of 1,900 rolling.)

"She squeezed those suckers so tight, she left nothing for me. Thanks, Katie," Viera said, but she was just getting warmed up.

"People say he's so prim and proper, like he's got a stick up his ass. It's not a stick, my friends, it's Al Roker's dick."

After showing some slides from Beijing, with Lauer and Roker prancing in tights, she added: "Let' just say Al puts the 'meat' in 'meteorologist."

"I don't know if you knew this about him, but Matt is a lefty," she continued. "Which is precisely why NBC hired him." (Oh, the McCain camp is going to love that one.)

"Let's focus on Matt's numerous achievements in journalism," she said with the briefest of pauses. "OK, that's done."

She then congratulated him, and said, "I'll see you Monday, asshole."

Katie Couric was next.

"I haven't heard this much applause since CBS executives heard I was leaving," she cracked.

"There are 1900 people here, which is about the biggest audience I've had since I moved to CBS."

Also: "Al Roker, Obama's second favorite weatherman after Bill Ayers."

And: "It's great that one of Barack Obama's political advisers could make it here today. Ladies and gentlemen, Brian Williams."

And as for Sarah Palin's $150,000 on clothes? "In Eliot Spitzer dollars that's three hookers and a pony."

On that Cruise interview, and why it pained Lauer: "He wanted to be the only good-looking man in the room everyone thinks is gay."

She then did a Letterman-style Top Ten Things About Matt which were fairly funny. Some highlights:

"10. According to his wife, he's not really an early riser, if you know what I mean."

7. When Katie did the colonoscopy live on television, doctors found Matt's head.

And the best:

"2. He loves to eat Curry."

The room loved that one, and Ann Curry blanched. Great moment.

"What, Indian food! What's wrong with you people!" Katie said.

Couric was followed by Zucker, who got off a few zingers of his own. He reminisced about Bryant Gumbel leaving the Today show.

"There was the time Matt stayed for a while at Bryant's house. That must have been exciting. Two white guys talking golf."

And: "It's just good to see Matt up here and not under my desk."

And: "I don't want to say Matt is a germophobe, but he's the only guy I know who uses Purell both before and after he masturbates."

The inimitable Richard Belzer then followed Zucker, and as is his trademark, abused the audience as much as he told jokes. And the best moment came when he tried to tell his final joke and kept screwing it up.

"It's not all fluff and fluffing," he said about Lauer's lightweight reputation. Lauer had also done serious reporting, he continued. "Who could forget the time when he tracked down the exact membership..."

And that was the wrong word. So he started the joke over again. Five times. Finally, he dragged Lauer himself up to deliver the punch line:

"Who could forget the time when he tracked down the exact measurement of Ann Coulter's dick," Lauer said to a roar from the audience. Another great moment.

Comedian Jeffrey Ross was on next, and didn't disappoint. "I've never been to a show where the fat lady sings at the beginning," he said. And Aretha Franklin returned the favor with her middle finger.

Ross on Jeff Zucker: "How do you make fun of a guy who looks like his penis?"

And, to groans: "I haven't laughed this little since we roasted Terry Schiavo."

NBC anchor Brian Williams then approached the microphone after being called up by Roker -- how would he do after a killer like Ross?

"Thanks, Al. It was great to see you this morning in spandex, as it's always great to see your vagina," Williams said.

About Lauer: "I often say, a lot of the clothing you see him wear on the Today show is also available for men."

On the economy: "It's so complicated! We just say 'it's a crisis.'"

On Zucker: "He's doubled our stock. You can now buy two shares where before you could only buy one."

Williams was followed by a guy who had won some kind of roasting contest. He had one good line: "We all know Joe the Plumber, and Joe Six-Pack. Well, now we know Joe Blow. Ladies and gentlemen, Clay Aiken."

Bob Saget was next, and he noted that, like Lauer, he's 52. But Lauer is married and Saget is divorced: "Do what I'm doing, Matt. Come into the Dark Side. My next wife hasn't even been born yet.

Saget then went for the raunch. "People say if I could blow myself, I wouldn't leave the house. But if I could blow myself, I would leave the house. I'd want people to see that shit."

But for pure raunch, Saget was outdone by Gilbert Gottfried.

He had recently given Today's Asian-American cohost Ann Curry some lessons in stand-up comedy. "People ask me, does Ann Curry's pussy go sideways?" Gilbert said to gasps. But he was just getting warmed up.

Curry was dying as he started a joke, "Ann Curry told me this one. Two sisters. One sister is eating out the other sister's asshole." Curry is dying. "The first sister is eating out the second sister's asshole, and the second sister is playing the trombone with her pussy..." Believe me, the best part of that joke had already been told by that point.

He finished with: "How do you get a faggot to fuck a woman? Fill up her cunt with shit. Thank you."

Lauer finally, after a brief appearance by Pat Cooper, got his turn.

"Oh my God. I almost invited my mother."

He then pointed out that at NBC they had obituaries completed and ready to roll on 11 of the people on the dais.

And as for a December interview he has scheduled with Cruise and what happened the last time: "He pulls that shit again, I will fuck him up."

On the Friars: "They guaranteed me that nothing I said would be seen or heard, so I feel like I'm anchoring the CBS news."

As for rumors of romance with Katie: "Let me just say that I saw that colon a lot before the rest of you saw it."

And: "What's with all the small-dick jokes? It was fun to look over and see Ann Curry laughing... like she doesn't know how big my dick really is."

And finally: "As hard as I may try, I will never forget this afternoon."

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